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The Undeniable Trinity
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Their life is One Life
The Trinity teaches there is one God eternally existing in three Persons. One essence; the Divine essence subsists wholly, indivisibly, simultaneously and eternally, in the three members of the One Godhead—the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. - JFM
Passages that read Jesus as God:
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Romans 9:5 - To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
~This is not a question and in the Greek there are no commas.
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John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
~God was with God.
~With Revelation 19:13 - He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. This is Christ. - John 1:14
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John 1:18 - No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father’s side, he has made him known.
~Who is at the Father's side is not a question. Read John 1:1-18 for full context.
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Revelation 1:8,17-18 - “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
~The one to come is Christ Revelation 1:7 with Daniel 7:13 with Matthew 24:30, 16:27-28, 25:31; Mark 13:26; Luke 21:27; etc.
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Isaiah 9:6 - For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
God /LORD are called Mighty God as well:
~ ESV - Deuteronomy 10:17; Joshua 22:22; Job 36:5; Psalm 50:1; Isaiah 10:21; Jeremiah 32:18
[King James Version - Genesis 49:24; Deuteronomy 7:21; Habakkuk 1:12]
~ Any God other than the true God is a false god through Scripture:
(Exodus 20:3, *Isaiah 43:10, Deut. 5:7, 4:35,39, Deut. 32:39, Isaiah 42:21, Isaiah 44:8, Isaiah 45:2,22, Psalm 24:4, *Psalm 81:9, 1 Chron. 17:20, 1 Kings 8:60, Joel 2:27, Hosea 13:4, 1 Cor. 8:4, 10:19).
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John 20:27-29 - Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”
~Thomas was speaking to Christ. No rebuke. Capital G.
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John 1:3 - All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Christ is outside creation. A thing cannot be both created and not created. If Jesus caused all created things to come into existence, then He must have existed before all created things came into existence. Therefore, the Word could not have been created. Angel's are created.
~No angel was ever considered a angel and a god.
~Christ made all things, that includes the angel's.
Colossians 1:16-17 and John 1:3. There is only One God, any other god is a false god. 1 Timothy 2:5.
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John 8:24 - I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.” Jesus says Himself I am He.
~The same "I Am" that Jesus used (Ego eimi - εἰμί) is the same Ego eimi that Yahweh used in
Exodus 3:14.
~This is solely God's divine name, yet Christ uses it to describe himself also:
Ego eimi: John 8:58; John 14:6 and Revelation 4:8.
~Was and will be: John 1:1; John 17:5; Col 1:17; Hebrews 13:8; Revelation 1:17
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EXTRA: Colossians 2:9-10; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20
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This website is aimed for Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons and Jews who deny Christ's deity and claim that Jesus is a created being, a mere angel named Michael or Lucifer's brother.
IF Jesus is just that, there should be a GREATER distinction between the 3 Persons. So instead of going through the basic passages, down below are charts of passages that prove The Father, Son and Holy Spirit share the same Names and Unique Attributes. This should not be and cannot be because there is no one like the LORD. "Jesus a creature and The Holy Spirit a force" cannot compare with the LORD, but they do in many ways. They also claim Jesus is a god but any god other than the True God is a false god throughout the Bible.
Isaiah 43:10 - Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me.
[Deuteronomy 4:35; Isaiah 45:5; etc].
JESUS IS THE LORD OF HOSTS
1.
Joshua 5:13 -15 - When Joshua was by Jericho, he lifted up his eyes and looked, and behold, a man was standing before him with his drawn sword in his hand. And Joshua went to him and said to him, “Are you for us, or for our adversaries?”And he said, “No; but I am the commander of the army of the LORD. Now I have come.” And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshiped and said to him, “What does my lord say to his servant?” And the commander of the LORD’s army said to Joshua, “Take off your sandals from your feet, for the place where you are standing is holy.” And Joshua did so.
- The commander of the army OF the LORD is speaking as a second person.
- Who carries a sword? Jesus does [Matthew 10:34; Rev. 1:15-17; 2 Thess 2:8 with Job 4:9; etc]
- When Joshua realized who He was, He worshiped Him.
Who else besides the LORD can receive worship? Christ can and never rebuked them
[Matt 2:2,11; Matt 14:33; Matt 28:9,16-17; John 9:37-38; Hebrews 1:6;etc].
- We are servants of Christ [John 12:26; Phil 1:1; 1 Cor 4:1; 2 Cor 11:23; Ephesians 6:6; etc.]
- Yet we are commanded to serve God alone - [Matt 4:10; Deuteronomy 6:13; Exodus 20:3-5]
- This man speaks the same words the LORD did to Moses [Exodus 3:5]
2.
There are 2 persons here. Jesus is the LORD of Hosts:
Isaiah 44:6 - Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel AND his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.
- Christ is the Redeemer [Galatians 3:13, 4:4-5; Titus 2:13-14; etc.]
- Christ is the First and the Last [Rev. 1:16-18, 2:8. Also read together Re. 22:12-13, 22:20-21]
3.
Isaiah 54:5 - For your Maker is your husband, the LORD of hosts is his name; AND the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer, the God of the whole earth he is called.
- Jesus is our Maker [Col 1:15-16; John 1:1-3,10; Acts 3:15; etc]
- Jesus is our Husband [Matt 9:15; 2 Corinthians 11:2; Rev 19:6-9; etc.]
- Extra: Jesus is the Holy One of God [Mark 1:24 & Luke 4:34]
Psalm 3:8 Salvation belongs to the LORD-.
BONUS:
Hebrews 9:14 - how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without blemish to God, purify our conscience from dead works to serve the living God.
Acts 20:28 - Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God (theos), which he obtained with his own blood.
Their life is One Life
TRINITY
Father Son and Holy Spirit:
John 10:30 and 33 explain that the Father and the Son are one. First Corinthians 3:16 shows that the Father and the Spirit are one. Romans 8:9 makes clear that the Son and the Spirit are one. And John 14:16, 18, and 23 demonstrate that the Father, Son, and Spirit are one.
In describing the Trinity, the New Testament clearly distinguishes three Persons who are all simultaneously active. At Christ’s baptism, all three Persons were simultaneously active (Matthew 3:16–17), with the Son being baptized, the Spirit descending, and the Father speaking from Heaven. Jesus Himself prayed to the Father (Matthew 6:9), taught that His will was distinct from His Father’s (Matthew 26:39), promised that He would ask the Father to send the Spirit (John 14:16), and asked the Father to glorify Him (John 17:5).
These actions would not make sense unless the Father and the Son were two distinct Persons. Elsewhere in the New Testament, the Holy Spirit intercedes before the Father on behalf of believers (Romans 8:26), as does the Son, who is our Advocate (1 John 2:1). Again, the distinctness of each Person is in view.
-John MacArthur
https://www.gty.org/library/articles/A215/our-triune-god
BONUS:
Mark 13:32 - “But concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
Revelation 19:11-13 - His (Jesus) eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself.
Their life is One Life
LOVE
Yahweh's main attribute is love. IF God is single in person how could He know love if He never had anyone to love or anyone to love Him. Only a Triune Being could know love perfectly because He is being loved perfectly.
John 5:20 - "For the Father Loves the Son and shows him all that He himself is doing.-" (John 3:35)
John 15:9 -Jesus speaking "As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Remain in my love."
John 17:23-26 - God loved Jesus before the foundation of the world.
John 14:31 - but I do as the Father has commanded me, so that the world may know that I love the Father. Rise, let us go from here.
Galatians 5:22 - The Fruit of the Spirit is Love.
God is love and He has always been love. Because there's always been three members of the trinity loving perfectly, being loved and loving. How could God know love before the foundation of the world unless there was a love between the three members of the trinity?
GLORY
Acts 12:21-23 - On an appointed day Herod put on his royal robes, took his seat upon the throne, and delivered an oration to them. And the people were shouting, “The voice of a god, and not of a man!” Immediately an angel of the Lord struck him down, because he did not give God the GLORY, and he was eaten by worms and breathed his last.
Isaiah 42: 6-8 -“I am the LORD; I have called you in righteousness; I will take you by the hand and keep you; I will give you as a covenant for the people, a light for the nations, to open the eyes that are blind, to bring out the prisoners from the dungeon, from the prison those who sit in darkness.
I am the LORD; that is my name; my GLORY I give to NO other, nor my praise to carved idols.
John 17:5 - And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed. - Christ speaking.
I am he in Greek (Ego eimi) means I am, exist.
Same reaction of
Moses to I AM in
Exodus 3:6 and
Revelation 1:16-18
Isaiah saw Christ's GLORY
Isaiah 6:1 - In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and the train of his robe filled the temple.
Isaiah 6:5 - And I said: “Woe is me! For I am lost; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts!”
Isaiah 6:8 - And I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” Then I said, “Here I am! Send me.” (Isaiah 6:8-9)
John 12:40-41 - Isaiah said these things because he saw His glory and spoke of him.
(In John 12:16-45 he talking all about Christ - http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-texts-isaiah6.htm)
Isaiah 44:6 - 2 Yahwehs
Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel AND his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god. (Christ is the LORD of Hosts, the Redeemer and the First and the Last)
THE FIRST AND THE LAST
Exodus 3:6 - He said also, "I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob." Then Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God.
Revelation 1:16-18 - In his right hand he held seven stars, from his mouth came a sharp two-edged sword, and his face was like the sun shining in full strength. When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Fear not, I am the first and the last, and the living one. I
died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.
John 5:18 - This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
[John 10:33].
Malachi 2:10
"Have we not all One Father? Has not One God created us-."
1 Samuel 2:10 -
The LORD will judge the ends of the earth; he will give strength to his king and exalt the horn of his anointed.”
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There are No commas in the Greek
John 8:24
Jesus says "I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.”With Exodus 3:14 "I AM".
How is an angel, a creature Lord of Glory?
Why does God's glory go through Christ a"creature"?
Psalm 24:10 - Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory! Selah
BONUS:
Psalm 49:7-9 - Truly no man can ransom another, or give to God the price of his life,
Mark 10:45 - "For even the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
Jesus is not a mere man, He is God, so He can do just that.
Their life is One Life
Mighty God
Jesus is the mighty God in Isaiah 9:6. God is also The Mighty God in:
ESV - Deut. 10:17; Joshua 22:22; Job 36:5; Psalm 50:1; Isaiah 10:21; Jeremiah 32:18
[King James Version - Genesis 49:24; Deuteronomy 7:21; Habakkuk 1:12]
Yet there is ONE God and One Lord
These verses contradict unless Jesus is God and Lord
[Malachi 2:10,15; Mark 12:29,32; Rom. 3:30; Eph. 4:6; 1 Cor. 8:4,6; 1 Tim. 2:5; James 2:19]
Jesus taught in Capernum
"LORD, who is like you, -?"
Exodus 15:11; Psalm 35:10, 71:19, 77:13, 89:8, etc.
There is None like you
Exodus 8:10, 9:14; Deuteronomy 33:26;1 Sam. 2:2; 2 Sam. 7:22; 1 Kings 8:23; Jeremiah 10:6
"Who can compare with the LORD?"
Psalm 35:10, 71:19, 89:6; Isaiah 40:18;
None
Psalm 40:5
Yet in these charts Jesus and the Holy Spirit are alike and compare with God.
There is only One God and One Lord but Jesus is called God and Lord
(Isaiah 9:6; John 1:18; Revelation 1:8 & John 13:13;1 Corinthians 8:6,12:3)
*Jesus is the One to come.
WHO IS LIKE ME?
Yahweh speaks of his own self-glorification and applies this exaltation to the risen savior. Every knee bows to Christ and yet all is to the GLORY of God the Father. Is this Yahwehs GLORY being divided? No more than it was divided in John 17:5 where the Son and His reincarnate state shared it with the Father.
Why is Jesus given the Divine Name? They are forgetting the incarnation and humility of Christ and the GLORY that was His before that VOLUNTARY SELF HUMIILIATION. Jesus Christ the Lord of GLORY the Word made flesh. IT IS A PLAIN AND BIBLICAL teaching. Jesus truly became flesh but that great act of condescension does not change the fact that before time itself he shared the very glory of God alongside the Father He was the Eternal Son Fully Divine.
How then do we answer the obviously rhetorical question “Who is like me?” Well the answer is there is many like you, in fact when it comes to worship, creatures can receive basically every kind of praise and adoration that you do.
And when it comes to who the creator is there are creatures who can be said to be the ones through whom we were made and for whom we were made. In fact the Divine name itself can be given to creatures as well.
Surely this was not the intention of the rhetorical question “Who is like Me”? The Answer to that question is simple, there is NONE like Him. So can we truly bare to have Jesus Christ who is King of kings, Lord of lords beginning and end, First and Last, Lord of GLORY, the Creator of all things, the One to whom every knee bows and tongue confesses, the One who says [Ego eimi] and the soldiers fall back upon the ground, the Word who is in the Beginning and who is seen by Isaiah seated upon the throne receiving the adoration, the Cherubim the Seraphim; can we truly bare to see him placed in the category of the finite, the limited, the created so that we cannot join the created order in bowing and worshiping Him in fullness of heart as seen in Revelation Chapter 5? I say that we cannot and the Bible prohibits our doing so.
- James R. White
Revelation 21:14
Their life is One Life
http://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2014/08/old-testament-passages-implying.html
The Plurality of God
Malachi 1:6 English Translation: Master Hebrew: ע אדֹולנהיםם Literally: Masters
Plural Nouns that were not translated: o Ecclesiastes 12:1 English Translation: thy Creator Hebrew: בוולרתְ אֶ איםךלָ Literally: Creators
o Daniel 7:18 English Translation: Most High Hebrew: אֶ עולֹתְיםולנהיםן Literally: Most High Ones
Plural Verb: o 2Samuel 7:23 English Translation: God went Hebrew: לָ הלֹתְכוו ו -א א אלֹל ה היםם Literally: They went
o Isaiah 54:5 English Translation: For thy Maker is thy husband Hebrew: בל ע עולֹחיִךתְ עולששחיִךתְ Literally: Makers, Husbands
Plural Adjesctive: o Joshua 24:19 English Translation: holy God Hebrew: א אלֹל ה היםם תְ קדֹלששהיםם Literally: Holy Gods
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS A HE
The Holy Spirit is not a force, He is referred to as He (John 14:26, 15:26, 16:7,13), The Spirit of God (Genesis 1:2, 1 John 4:2, Romans 8:14, 1 Corinthians 3:16), He testifies about Christ (Acts 5:32, John 15:26) and does as He wills
(1 Corinthians 12:11, Hebrews 2:4, Isaiah 40:13-14).
The Holy Spirit is a divine being and cannot be a "force."
"The trinity is so crucial because if we don't believe in the trinity, than we don't believe in the true God, and we don't believe in the true Christ, than we do't believe in the true Holy Spirit.This is the nature of God. If you deny the Trinity you end up denying the person of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit; you've created a god that doesn't exist. Believing and knowing the true God is essential to Salvation. Anything less than believing the tri-une God, destroys to some degree the nature of each member of the trinity-."
-John Mac Arthur
John 8:23 -24
Jesus said to them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.”
I AM in Greek is Ego eimi this is the same Ego eimi Yahweh used in
Exodus 3:14.
Slaves in Egypt
Historical Art
We cannot understand the depth of God, Jesus or the Spirit. The Trinity is Biblical, we may not understand it but it is clear there is ONE God eternally existing in THREE Persons. One essence; the Divine essence subsists wholly, indivisibly, simultaneously and eternally, in the three members of the One Godhead—the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. - J.F.M
Slavery in Egypt
CREATURE - CREATOR
Romans 1:24-25 - "Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen." If Jesus is a creature he should not be worshiped, knelled before or served.
Why is this allowed if he is a creature?
JEALOUS GOD
Exodus 20:5 - "You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, -."
Jesus was worshiped, every knee will bow down before Him and if you are a true believer you are a servant of Christ.
[Daniel 7:13-14].
o If Christ is suppose to be a "creature," we have served and worshiped the creature rather than the creator and therefore God's wrath should be kindled, but it is not. Instead God approves it.
Christ is worshiped, every knee will bow down before Him, believers serve as Christ's servants, our hope and trust is in Christ. However, God himself said to hope, believe, trust and take refuge in Him. This should provoke a jealous God to anger. Yet God is not angry, instead He says He is given thanks and glory through Christ [through Christ - a creature] Yahweh even "allows a creature" to sit on a throne in His place of worship. If Jesus is an "angel a created being" he should be worshiping alongside the other angel's; but there is no mention of that. When God is being worshiped in the Book of Revelation there is no distinction of who is being worshiped before the Throne. If Jesus is not God, there should be a distinction, but none was given. Why will everything will be reconciled to a Christ? Why would Christ come in God's wrath, when Yahweh said He himself would come in wrath to Judge the Earth?
Christ is highly esteemed, Yahweh should be angry.
God's kingdom, God our Savior, Redeemer, forgiver of sins, Teacher, Master, Lord, God, Mighty, Almighty, The Great and Exalted One, the Giver of Life, the First and the Last, The King of kings, Lord of lords, Judge, Creator, Husband and I AM?
All of these apply also to Jesus and to the Holy Spirit. Why is He NOT Jealous? This does not sound like a creature or a false god. He sounds like one God eternally existing in three Persons. One essence; the Divine essence subsists wholly, indivisibly, simultaneously and eternally, in the three members of the One Godhead—the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. - JFM
JESUS EMPTIED HIMSELF
What did He give up
- He did not empty Himself of His deity or any portion of his deity, (Luke 9:32) when he pulled back his flesh they saw the glory that was there. He gave up His heavenly glory (John 17:5) or another way to look at it He covered up His glory. He veiled it.
-He emptied Himself of Independent authority. None of us can understand this but He completely submitted Himself to the Will of the Father. Jesus learned to be a servant and He submitted Himself. Phil. 2:8 - And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross (Luke 22:42; John 5:30).
-He sat aside His prerogatives of His Deity, or He sat aside the voluntary use of His attributes. Jesus did not stop being anything, omnipresent or unchangeable Hebrews 13:8. Omnipresent because He saw Nathaniel when He wasn't even where Nathaniel was in human form John 1:46-48. He just didn't use those attributes, He restricted His omniscience Matthew 24:36.
-He gave up His personal riches for our sake 2 Corinthians 8:9.
-He gave up a favorable relationship to God 2 Corinthians 5:21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. And as a result He says, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me?" He gave up a favorable relationship to God Matthew 27:46. Though He gave up all of this He never ceased to be God, never. He remained fully God.
Philippians 2:7 Christ became a bond slave. He came to serve God's will and God's purpose and submit to God and therefore submit to the need's of men as well Isaiah 52:13-14. For the rest
https://www.gty.org/library/sermons-library/50-16/the-humiliation-of-christ
JESUS EMPTIED HIMSELF
These are just a few verses John MacArthur pointed out in this sermon. I recommend reading or listening to this sermon for more great points on Christ's Deity.
https://www.gty.org/library/sermons-library/50-16/the-humiliation-of-christ
John 8:23 -24 Jesus said to them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.” John 20:27-28 - Jesus said -, stop doubting and believe, (believe I am he who?) Thomas answered My Lord and my God!
*Philippians 2:6 - "who, though he was in the form of God (that is where the incarnation begins) did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped (equality in greek is isos means exactly equal in size, quantity, quality, character, number, etc.) The Greek text reads Philippians 2:6 as "He did not regard the being equal with God." There is no question about this in Scripture. John 5:18 - it says the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him Why? Because He was NOT ONLY breaking the Sabbath he was also calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. Why is it that Christ's enemies knew he was, but Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons do not. In John 10:33 the Jews answered Him again, "For a good work we do not stone you, but for blasphemy." Why? "Because you being a man make yourself to be God." John 20:27-28 - Thomas answered him "My Lord and my God!"
*Philippians 2:7 - but emptied himself-. What did He empty? He did not empty Himself of His deity or any portion of his deity, (Luke 9:32) when he pulled back his flesh they saw the glory that was there.
GOSPEL
The gospel is the good news, Christ is God in the flesh, fully God and fully man. Unless you believe in who Christ is, you will die in your sins [John 8:24]. Christ came to obey the Law of God perfectly, on our behalf - because we could not, and to pay the punishment - which we deserved. If you repent and believe, ALL your sins are imputed to Christ and paid for on the cross. And likewise the righteousness that Christ performed is imputed to you. You are saved by His works not your own. However if you reject this message, the punishment is Eternal Hell, but only as a result of your sins and rejection of Him.
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