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If Jesus is the Arch Angel Michael...

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1. Why is Jesus and Michael the Arch Angel in the Book of Revelation together as two separate beings?

Michael - Revelation 12:7 ~ Jesus - Revelation 12:10

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2. Why is Christ mentioned a few verses after Michael ?

If Michael's new name is Jesus (or vice versa) why are both names back to back?

 Revelation 12:7 & 10

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3. No where in Scripture does it say Jesus you shall be called Michael. 

Jesus was never given a new name.

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4. Jesus used the voice of an arch angel, this does not make him one

(1 Thess. 4:16, this verse is the closest to proving Jesus as Michael).

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5. Being such an important teaching, why isn't the Bible more clear on Jesus being an arch angel?

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6. If Jesus is the Arch angel Michael, why was Jesus able to rebuke Satan and demons (Matthew all of chapter 4, 8:16, 16:23; Mark 1:34, 8:32-37, 9:25; Luke 4:35-41) when He (Jesus) was made lower than the angels (Hebrews 2:7-9), but Michael being an angel was not able to rebuke Satan or demons . Instead Michael says Jude 1:9, “But even the archangel Michael, when he disputed with the devil over the body of Moses, did not presume to bring a slanderous judgment against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!” 

 

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7. Why is Jesus, an angel, sitting on His own throne?

 

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8. "If Jesus is an angel" and angels are fellow servants than why did John say, "But He (Jesus) who is MIGHTIER than I is coming, the strap of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie"?

Luke 3:15-17 with Revelation 19:10 and Rev. 22:9

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9. Hebrews 1:5,11-13 "For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my Son, today I have begotten you”? Or again, “I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son”?

Rhetorical Question (Psalm 2:7; Matthew 3:17, 17:5; John 5:20,37)

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10. Hebrews 1:13 "And to which of the angels has he ever said, “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet”?"

(Psalm 110:1; Matthew 22:44; Hebrews 1:5, 10:13).

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Jesus compares with God

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"Who can compare with the LORD?"

Exodus 15:11, Psalm 35:10, 89:6, 113:5; Isaiah 40:18, 40:25, 44:8, 46:5; Micah 7:18-20

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The answer is No One 

Exodus 8:10, 9:14; Deuteronomy 33:26; 1 Samuel 2:2; 1 Chronicles 17:20; 2 Samuel 7:22; Psalm 86:8

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There is NO other god

Deuteronomy 3:24, 4:35-39, 32:39; 2 Samuel 7:22; 1 Kings 8:60; Psalm 18:31; Isaiah 45:5, 45:22, 46:9; Joel 2:27 Mark 12:32; James 2:19

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Hebrews 13:8 "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever." 

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False Prophets​

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Matthew 7:14-15- Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves

(1 Kings 13:18, Luke 6:26 and John 10:12).

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Jeremiah 23:16,27 - Behold, I am against those who prophesy lying dreams, declares the LORD, and who tell them and lead my people astray by their lies and their recklessness, when I did not send them or charge them. So they do not profit this people at all, declares the LORD.

(Matthew 24:11,24; 2 Thessalonians 2:9; 2 Peter 2:1; Deuteronomy 13:1-18, 18:20; Jeremiah 23:27,32). 

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2 Corinthians 4:4 - In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

John 1:18 - No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father’s side, he has made him known.

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 In the Greek there are NO commas.

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There is only One God

(Deuteronomy 4:35-39, 6:4; 2 Kings 19:19; Psalm 86:10; Isaiah 37:20; Malachi 2:10-15;Mark 12:29-32; John 1:1-18, 5:44; Ephesians 4:6; 1 Corinthians 8:4-6; 1 Timothy 1:17, 2:5; James 2:19; Jude 1:25)

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There are many false gods

(Deuteronomy 32:17; Psalm 4:2, 97:7, 106:37; Ezekiel 30:13; Amos 2:4; Jeremiah 13:25, 14:22, 18:15; Jonah 2:8; 1 Corinthians 8:4, 10:7; 1 John 5:21)

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How is it conceivably possible that a finite creature made by God, "the archangel Michael or brother of Lucifer" could pay the eternal sin debt of every believer throughout human history in a 3 hour period on a cross? Only an Infinite Being could pay the Eternal price for sin, which is the full cup of God's wrath.  A creature cannot do that, nor would it be an Angels place or right to pay Our sin debt and forgive the sins that we have committed against God.  

(Mark 2:7; Romans 3:30 & 10:3; Hebrews 9:26; 1 John 1:7). 

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Some Jehovah Witness Beliefs:

 

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In Scripture the Eye Witnesses, Disciples, God and The Holy Spirit were all eye witnesses of Christ:

Luke 1:1-2, 2:32, 24:45-48 ~ Acts 1:8, 4:18-21, 13:31 ~ John 1:6-8, 5:37-38, 8:18, 10:25, 15:27

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 Jehovah witnesses believe Heaven is full of the 144,000 and we will have everlasting life on EARTH in the Future.

 If Heaven were full why say any of these things about Heaven or the Kingdom?

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Heaven:

Psalm 84:10/ Matthew 7:21, 19:24, 23:30-32, 24:31/ John 3:3-5,13,- 5:28 (with Ephesians 2) 

1 Corinthians 6:8-11, 15:50-53; 1 Thessalonians 4:17/ Revelation 11:11-12, 21:1

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Kingdom:

Jesus in Luke 4:42-44 said, “I must preach the good news of the KINGDOM (Matthew 4:23, 9:35, 10:7; Mark 1:15,38; Acts 1:3, 20:24-25, 28:23, 31, Luke 8:1, 9:2, 20:35, Colossians 4:11) of God to other towns as well; for I was sent for this purpose.” (Mark 16:15; Colossians 1:23).

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In Revelation it does not distinguish if it is God or Jesus that is being worshiped before the Throne

Revelation 4:8-11, 5:11-14, 7:10-17, 15:3-4, Rev. 21:6 with Rev. 7:17 

 

 

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Hell

 

 

 

Jehovah Witnesses say, "The very idea of tormenting people with fire disgusts God

Jeremiah 7:31.".

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Jeremiah 7:31 - "And they have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, which I did not command, nor did it come into my mind."

 

If this is the context it contradicts what God did to Sodom and Gomorrah and Arrons sons; when He consumed them with fire.

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Read also: 

((Leviticus 10:1-2), Deuteronomy 32:22;Isaiah 9:19, 47:14; Jeremiah 15:14, Psalm 21:9, 50:3, 140:10; Malachi 4:1, 2 Peter 3:7; Jude 1:6-8). Hell, the Lake of fire, eternal fire, lake that burns with fire and sulfur, the grave, the pit and Hades; why mention any of these things if it "disgusts God"? 

 

How can God be disgusted with something he created? Matthew 25:41 - “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."

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If the idea of tormenting people with fire disgusts God, then why is there even a mention of hell in Scripture, even if it were a metaphor?

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• Genesis 19:24

• 2 Samuel 22:8-10

• Psalm 11:6, 79:6, 97:1-4

• Amos 4:11

• Leviticus 10:1-3

• Matthew 3:7, 5:22-30, 10:15,28, 11:23-24, 16:18, 18:9, 23:14-33, 25:41

• Mark 9:43-48

• Luke 3:7, 12:5,40, 13:23-29 20:47-48

• John 19:11

• 2 Thessalonians 1:9

• Hebrews 2:3, 3:12, 10:29

• James 3:6-8

• 2 Peter 2:4

• Revelation 14:10, 19:3,20, 20:10, 21:8

• God is a consuming fire:

• Exodus 24:17; Deuteronomy 4:24, 9:3; Isaiah 33:14; Hebrews 12:29; Revelation 1:14, 19:11-13

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THE GOSPEL MESSAGE

 

The Gospel

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The gospel is the good news, Christ is God in the flesh, fully God and fully man. Unless you believe in who Christ is, you will die in your sins [John 8:24]. Christ came to obey the Law of God perfectly, on our behalf - because we could not, and pay the punishment - which we deserved. If you repent and believe, your sins are imputed to Christ and paid for on the cross. And likewise the righteousness that Christ performed is imputed to you. You are saved by His works not your own. If you reject this message, you will pay for your own sins in Hell forever.

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John Mac Arthur / Paul Washer / Tim Conway / David Platt / James White / Jeff Durban  

Bob Jennings / R.C Sproul / Charles Leiter / Kenneth Hahn / Bruce Brock / Steve Lawson / Charles Spurgeon / John Calvin Martin Luther (99 thesis), Leonard Ravenhill and David Wilkerson

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